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Post by coolboy on Jun 19, 2006 7:13:50 GMT -6
Fooey Durel had better let the people vote for the next Chief of Police. This has really made him look incompetent. I'm not really sure if I have much faith in him. Having recently moved back to Lafayette last year, I thought the city was in much better hands. Guess I was wrong.
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Post by abbd on Jun 19, 2006 8:05:06 GMT -6
Wow, just think of all the discussions that might have taken place and recorded. With all the turmoil in the city concerning police and firemen's pay, the steroid scandal, the police misconduct investigations etc etc etc there is no telling what was recorded. I wonder who listened to the tapes? I wonder what was done with the intelligence gathered from the tapes? Wonder if any disciplanry action was taken from info recorded? Wow this really could be interesting huh? Maybe we could file a FOIA request and get the tapes released to the public. Maybe the local media will do that huh? Nah never!
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Post by zoe10850 on Jun 19, 2006 11:29:22 GMT -6
I believe the Chief can be fired (since he does not have enough class to quit). The fact that Durel does not makes one wonder about the tapes.
Chief cannot be vpted for Coolboy, not in the charter (never was). Lafayette is not a "Lawerson Act" city. This is one of the reasons I think the LPD should be abolished and allow Sheriff to assume responsibility, like him or not, he is elected.
I for one do not think a college education is that critical. I do think not being a part of the system might be. We can do better than Hundley or Craft.
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Post by TBEAR on Jun 19, 2006 15:26:31 GMT -6
Zoe I think college ed is not important either but dont bend the rules just to make someone fit is what i meant.
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Post by coolboy on Jun 19, 2006 23:00:02 GMT -6
Just a thought:
Maybe the college ed requirement was in place for a reason. Perhaps if the chief had taken an ethics or law class, he might have thought differently before doing something illegal.
That was my poor attempt at humor!
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Post by TBEAR on Jun 20, 2006 6:25:37 GMT -6
lol, true coolboy  |
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Post by coolboy on Jun 20, 2006 6:37:16 GMT -6
Just in...the Chief is going to be able to retire with his benefits. I think that's fair. He is disgraced and will probably be forced out of office, but I'm fine with him retiring with benefits. He did serve our community for many years. Usually, I give people the benefit of the doubt and think that Hundley just made a poor decision.
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Post by abbd on Jun 20, 2006 7:18:18 GMT -6
I think the tapes should be made public. I want to know who said what to whom. I want to know what information was found and what did the chief do with that information. I want to know who listened to the tapes. I want full disclosure. I want to know when the "tap" was found and who had knowledge of it. If this is a two to three year old charge, I want to know why we (the taxpayers) weren't made aware of this issue sooner. What did "he" know, when did "he" know about it and what did "he" do about it? Lots of unanswered questions here and I'm sure the local media will work dillegently to uncover this huh? Nah never happen.
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Post by Dorothy on Jun 20, 2006 16:24:02 GMT -6
I do not think that any public official, or public employee should be allowed to draw any retirement benefit if convicted of a crime. I think that is a disgrace. There is a judge in jail from New Orleans who is drawing $100,000 per year in retirement benefits paid for by us, the taxpayer. He violated his oath of office. Tell me that is justified to draw retirement benefits; he is not retired, he is in jail, and the taxpayers must house this person.
I think removing benefits would encourage people to be conscious of their ethics, and consider ramifications of their actions. I do not work in the public sector, and will not retire at $80,000+ for the rest of my life, why should a criminal ? ALL criminals have made poor decisions, and we should not pay for it.
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Post by zoe10850 on Jun 21, 2006 0:22:02 GMT -6
Well, Hundley finally did the right thing, and resigned (am sure Durel asked him to spare further embarrassment). Now Durel says he is glad that is behind him. Is he kidding ? I'm with you abbd, I want to see what was in the tapes as soon as the investigation/trial is over. It is public record, and the public paid for those tapes to be made . Let us see how forthcoming Mr Durel/Stanley are.
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Post by percy on Jun 21, 2006 6:58:40 GMT -6
Oh, say ye not Durel. Your comments were weak and pathetic last night, at the meeting and on 3 and 10. And contrary to your view that you can put this behind and move forward from the “administrative gridlock” it is far from over. For we have to look forward to the impending criminal trials and perhaps, during the trials some of the tapes will be made public. But be forewarned, after the trials when the tapes are no longer part of a criminal investigation, they will be made public as they are public record. He@#, even the Watergate tapes from the oval office were declared public.
One has to wonder what this administration will do to prevent the tapes from being made public ...
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Post by abbd on Jun 21, 2006 7:52:54 GMT -6
In my opinion, joey would be better off allowing dee to do the speaking. I agree, joey's comments are weak. He looks and sounds like he gets very angry when questioned about any decision he makes. He reminds me of Kenny Bowen when it comes to taking criticism. OMG do we have another Kenny? When Chris Williams was talking about how violent and crime ridden our community has become, joey could be heard crying out ...it's drugs,it's drugs... well mr. mayor, are illegal drugs still illegal here in Lafayette? Wonder what the admin is considering doing about drugs, murder, carjackings, rapes etc. etc. etc. Y'all remember when joey was first elected he decided to take $200,000.00 from the police dept and giving it to the "arts"? Thank goodness the duncil vetoed that idea. But I guess the local media will grill joey on his plans to make Lafayette a safer city. Nah never.
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Post by zoe10850 on Jun 22, 2006 2:23:41 GMT -6
$40,000+ in sick leave benefits. You have got to be kidding. Maybe he is not as dumb as I thought.
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Post by percy on Jun 22, 2006 5:57:59 GMT -6
Rumor has it that many deals were cut involving former police officers who were placed on administrative then allowed to “retire.” Those of recent and of a year or two.
It appears that there were investigations into the alleged abuses but they were so badly bungled to the point that the officers with the alleged abuse were dictating terms of release ( retirement) rather than the investigators running the investigation.
One has to wonder, Is Lafayette better served by sweeping everything under that rug or allowing the dirty laundry to be aired in public.
I, for one, believe that the public is best served by a full accounting and let the chips, indictments, convictions, fall where they may. There will always be a cloud over this administration and the fine men and women of the LPD because the administration does not believe in full disclosure.
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Post by zoe10850 on Jun 23, 2006 1:24:21 GMT -6
What really aggravates me is the cavilier attitude of city hall with regard to these miscreants. Let's just put them on "administrative leave" with full pay and benefits, and maybe they will eventually quit.
Who the heck is paying this leave ? We know, US.
What private entity would operate this way ? Anybody heard of leave without pay ? If that is too severe, perhaps one should consider the consequences and not do private work on public time (the term used to be payroll fraud), or wiretap ANYONE without court order, or perhaps not use illegal drugs. Is this really too much to ask ?
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Post by abbd on Jun 28, 2006 9:01:53 GMT -6
Hopefully everyone who didn't see last nights duncil meeting will try to see it on a replay. I was apalled at the attitude that the CAO and most of the duncil had in regard to our dramatic increase in crime in Lafayette. I really don't think that an increase in all violent crime and especially murder is a laughing matter. If someone in that one duncilman's family had been a victim, I doubt if he would have sat there with a big grin on his face. There is no way to say "things are working" when crime is dramatically up and arrests are dramatically down. Spin all you want, administration, BUT the truth is staring you in the face. Lafayette is NOT safer than it was 4 years ago, it's a heck of a lot MORE dangerous and shows it right there in the police department's stats.
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Post by TBEAR on Jun 28, 2006 11:27:47 GMT -6
I saw it, ridiculous, and crime is getting worse, that is definite, no matter what somebody says.
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Post by abbd on Jun 28, 2006 14:21:02 GMT -6
TBear, you would think that the local media would be pounding joey,I mean really pounding he, Dee and the "current" police chief about how UNsafe Lafayette has become under their watch, but as usual we get cute little feel good puff pieces on the front page. Please tell your family, friends and neighbors to really be wary when shopping or travelling in Lafayette. Our community is crime ridden and very dangerous but the admin is blind to that fact (as seen last night at the duncil meeting). They have no one to blame but themselves. Vote these guys out. Lets elect some good government, crime fighting and budget cutting people in their places who won't raise our taxes.
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Post by zoe10850 on Jun 28, 2006 23:57:24 GMT -6
The reality of politics (unfortunately) is that if there is a negative issue, we allow the politician to ignore that issue and i is soon forgotten. We have such a short attention span that we will not remember around election time.
The "beauty" of a bureaucratic government is that blame can be pushed around until we forget the problem. Happens all the time. We are too busy with our daily survival to devote much time to these issues, and the politicians can ignore us.
Our police department will manage to find a bright spot in crime stats and will let the public know things are not so bad. Murder rate plunges in December. Only 2 rapes this month. No banks were robbed this week. That kind of stuff.
Good law enforcement is based uponprevention, not reaction. Does not matter that the armed robber is eventually caught, but that crime does not occur in the first place. How do you stop that type of crime ? Visibility of MARKED patrol units all over town. Unmarked cars do not help. A large percentage of city units are not marked. Why ? Ditto for the Sheriff's Office and the State Police. The cars should all be marked unless there is a specific reason or danger not to do so.
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Post by abbd on Jun 29, 2006 15:11:19 GMT -6
Hopefully everyone will pick up a copy of the "Independent". Really good article about durel and his ex-police chief. I had no idea how close those two (durel, hundley) are. I said before that I hoped we didn't have another "kenny" in office, but we might. Read the article tis good stuff. Be safe, Lafayette is getting more and more dangerous every day. Remember are you safer today than you were four years ago?
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