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Post by zoe10850 on Aug 15, 2006 19:59:30 GMT -6
I concur completely w/abbd. Govt has no place in the free anterprise environment. The fact that the court of appeals made Huval admit the cable would be subsidized by LUS (that means even higher rates kids) and the administration will plunge ahead and go to the supreme court; after all, we pay the legal fees, just to hear the same thing from the supreme court as the ct of appeals which is that the fiber cannot stand on its own, at least for years.
Any COMPETENT business person could have told us that, but then, Huval has spent his life working for government, where money is no object.
Now we have people complaining because the channels were changed around (btw - aligned with Baton Rouge) like they are too lazy to surf. The fact is, the courts have saved us taxpayers from a ton of more "payment in lieu" to give to Parish Govt. That is a good thing.
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Post by JeffC on Aug 17, 2006 17:23:58 GMT -6
Exactly how much are the attorney's for LUS making on this ill advised attempt to invest taxpayer money on a speculative business venture ? I would love to see a report on that (Listening Advertiser ?) This is why government costs so much; darn leeches, excuse me, attorney's.
Is an assistant DA the attorney for the city police suit for back supplemental pay ? That one seems a little shady. And what is his cut, 30% ?
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Post by coolboy on Aug 29, 2006 4:58:15 GMT -6
Someone submitted an article to the bird liner talking about free Wi-Fi connection being offered in some city in Colorado by the local government. The author said that Lafayette should create a wireless, citywide network where anyone could get on the internet. The only problem with his arguement is the word "FREE". Fiber to the home is going to be put in place to make money. Joey certainly is a generous person when it comes to taxpayers' dollars, but he wants to turn a profit as well. FTTH can be regulated and have the rates raised whenever he feels like it. Just like Huval is trying to do at LUS.
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Post by abbd on Aug 29, 2006 7:18:41 GMT -6
I'm not sure but I believe that Bell South had agreed to put in a wi-fi system in Lafayette but joey said it wasn't enough( like joey would know wi-fi from hi-fi) huh?. He believes that without fiber to the home lafayette will dry up, blow away and all the women and children would probably die. I think that was his reasoning. Fiber to the home has become a religion to some folks here, it's scary to me.The man is a money hungry, tax and spend our money like a drunken sailor, liberal who wants to grow government as big as he possibly can. The bigger government gets the more votes joey controls, got it? Constanly robbing poor ole peter(taxpayers) to pay paul(government).
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Post by zoe10850 on Aug 29, 2006 10:59:47 GMT -6
The problem with wi-fi is there is NO PAYMENT IN LIEU, an un voted tax on the citizens of Lafayette. Couple that with a new sales tax and you are talking about some real pocket change. That is the real motivation for FTTH, not providing "cheap" internet. And really, do you think anything the government does will be economic ? Do you really think we have a good deal with LUS right now ? of course not !
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Post by abbd on Sept 6, 2006 13:41:26 GMT -6
I haven't heard or read one word of how dunce and duncil are planning to handle the latest defeat of the fiber debacle. Ever wonder how much of our tax money has been used in this failed effort? Maybe they oughtta just let terry fiddle the supreme court a song, might do as well as the lawyers have. Or maybe just what lus is proposing is against the law? Hmmmmm that could be it huh? You do realize that with the new bonds for fiber(almost a quarter of a billion dollars when all is said and done), the new bonds y'all approved last month(about another quarter of a billion dollars+++), the new courthouse bonds(over a hundred million dollars) and the new tax he proposses(almost a HALF BILLION DOLLARS) hmmmmm man dats a lotta money yeah. Wow we talkin a BILLION DOLLARS!!! We gonna be $1,100,000,000.00 in debt!!!!! WOW! No wonder these bozos feel free to eat on taxpayer money, they got a billion to spend.
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Post by zoe10850 on Sept 6, 2006 23:11:17 GMT -6
Well abbd, apparently our Repubs learned economics at Yale like GW Bush, who will go down in history as biggest deficit spender in history of USA. I voted for, but am not very proud of Mr Bush. It would seem that our locals are no better. A billion in debt in one term; whew !!
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Post by abbd on Jan 12, 2007 11:39:55 GMT -6
I just realized that the "fiber" decision should come in any day now. I wonder hwat will happen if the "court" finds against LUS? Will there be another ordinance drawn up? Will that new ordinace have to be voted on by the people? Will dunce's laast two defeats force him to admit to his failure at leading this parish? Could be a very interesting time in Lafayette.
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Post by ronnief on Jan 12, 2007 21:01:30 GMT -6
The court has no option except to follow the law, which means fiber plan in present form cannot be implemented. Period. The fiber can only work if subsidized by utility money, which is precisely what the law is there to prevent; socialism.
And I know they tried to amend the law last year, but oddly enough, the legislature occasionally gets it right and vetoed legislation to legalize Lafayette socialism. Thank you .
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Post by abbd on Jan 13, 2007 6:56:18 GMT -6
I hope you're correct Ronnie, but remember this is Louisiana and oh well you know the rest of that story.
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Post by guest on Jan 16, 2007 7:04:17 GMT -6
If ftth is so good, why is the city advertising for wireless networks in today's legal notices ( page 9-c)?
Kinda makes you wonder, don't it?
Maybe wireless is good enough for the City Government and buildings but not for the rest of us?
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Post by SeleR on Jan 16, 2007 17:24:00 GMT -6
I am not a computer literate person. I do know that in the computer world, things change and become outdated very quickly. New technology is always in front of us.
I also know that Cox, AT & T, Bell etc. are in business to make money, generally by offering a better product than competition and at a better pricing level. If these people have not jumped on the fiber (ftth) bandwagon, we should all stand back and wonder why, not jump in and say, hey, we are government and if business will not do it, we will.
I know that many college campus and some cities (New Orleans was going to prior to Katrina) that were offering FREE wireless internet. Why would anyone go in and lay down fiber optic cable to compete with free ? We are more likely on the cutting edge of just plain backwards. The courts are doing us a favor by stopping this madness.
And why would the parish go wireless for them, but not for us ?
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Post by sam on Jan 17, 2007 11:48:22 GMT -6
Dear Guest: Where can I find the legal notice about the wireless for Lafayette.
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Post by guest on Jan 18, 2007 6:00:59 GMT -6
January 16 Advertiser Page 9-c
bty, there is already wireless access in numerous "City" buildings.
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Post by guest on Jan 18, 2007 7:08:44 GMT -6
Article published Jan 18, 2007 LUS is taking bids for project Alexandria Burris aburris@theadvertiser.com The Lafayette Consolidated Government's Purchasing Division is accepting sealed proposals from companies interested in supplying equipment for its proposed wireless service. Lafayette Utility Services is in Phase 1 of a wireless network project that will allow LUS field crews to upload and update customer information and other data without returning to the office.
Terry Huval, LUS director, said the wireless service will be for internal company use, and customers should not see it affect their rate schedules.
Huval said the project is expected to cost no more than $500,000, which should come out of its electricity, water, waste-water and telecommunications budget. LUS is looking for a company that can provide equipment and support services for the system, he said.
"Overall and in operations, we have a lot of need for connectivity and communications," he said.
Huval said the system will be available for LUS workers who travel with laptops.
It will allow them to enter data in a "real-time" situation and provide better service for customers.
I BELIEVE THE WORD I AM THINKING OF IS "HYPOCRITE."
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Post by sam on Jan 18, 2007 10:55:11 GMT -6
Now is the time for LUS to consider going wireless for the entire city. Surely they can see that if it is good for their business, it will be good for everyone. This can be done at a fraction of the cost of the fiber to the home project. The last estimate I saw was around $8 million wireless for the entire city, as opposed to the $125 million for fiber to the home
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Post by ddd on Jan 18, 2007 11:01:23 GMT -6
That's just how fast technology changes. Fiber is now obsolete.
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Post by zoe10850 on Jan 18, 2007 11:23:21 GMT -6
But you know they will never admit that they are wrong. I suggested wireless as the way to go, as have many others. Now Huval says it is the way to go for his elite people, just not us peons.
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Post by Dorothy on Jan 18, 2007 18:45:00 GMT -6
Well, what scares me is when Mr Huval says things like "only $500,000 as that were an inconsequential amount. That would of course be a parish wide wireless network, just for utility workers ?
And of course we miss the bigger point, wireless is good for "them" because there will be no charge. Huval still wants to be in "business" of selling cable and internet and telephone service so that we may be fleeced for more money that "they" do not have to answer for how it is spent. My o my but are we dumb.
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Post by jaguar on Jan 19, 2007 16:49:50 GMT -6
"We didn't love freedom enough. And even more--we had no awareness of the real situation. We spent ourselves in one unrestrained outburst in 1917, and then we hurried to submit. We submitted with pleasure! We purely and simply deserved everything that happened to us."
from "The Gulag Archipelago" Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn
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